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    Quote Originally Posted by *fishermen21* View Post
    Hey by the way anyone know where can I find Sargent seat in Sg for my R12St?? Is this kind of aftermarket seat good??
    Am using one on my GSA b'cos after changing out to Ohlins my seat ht increased and became a little bit uncomfortable.
    I have no problem with e OEM seat until the change to Ohlins.
    What i can say is that the Sargent seat reverted back the GSA original seat ht and it is physically broader & the shape give better support and comfort for longer rides.
    I am very happy with the Sargent seat purchase but everyone have a different Butt, what works for me may not work for others.

    I ordered my Sargent seat online.
    I don't think there is anybody in particular dealing in Sargent seat in Sg.
    If any of you guys order a Sargent seat it is advisable to get a Normal one as the Low version is said to be uncomfortable as feedback from guys who bought the Low version.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by NormalAspirated View Post
    Bro, here is the pics of a Stock GSA vs Motard GSA.

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    most probably wanna try to do a convert..
    alpina makes tubeless 17" rims..
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    Hi, has anyone installed a power commander for bikes before? My bike feels jerky at certain revs, and I read that have power commander might help.

    By the way, I', riding a R1100RT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soma View Post
    Hi, has anyone installed a power commander for bikes before? My bike feels jerky at certain revs, and I read that have power commander might help.

    By the way, I', riding a R1100RT.
    Do yourself a favour by getting the valve clearance checked and re-check!!

    I found this out myself after re-adjusting the valves clearance and rocker arms!

    My bike now perform like a charm at low and high rev... bearly feeling and vibration!

    It will totally transform your bike and bring you to another level of understanding for the boxer engine!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jason1202 View Post
    Do yourself a favour by getting the valve clearance checked and re-check!!

    I found this out myself after re-adjusting the valves clearance and rocker arms!

    My bike now perform like a charm at low and high rev... bearly feeling and vibration!

    It will totally transform your bike and bring you to another level of understanding for the boxer engine!
    Actually I just did a service with valve clearance at PML. Should I check with them again let them know that the bikes still feel a bit jerky? Is there something else I should do besides the valve clearance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NormalAspirated View Post
    I think this piece of shiit is gonna be more awesome than Super Tenere 1200.
    Many others can say all they want
    but I am quite sure BMW R1200GS is still gonna be the KING in the end of the day.

    The current GS has never won a Paris Dakar or any other off road event.

    Both the previous editions of the super ten and the africa twin has won the PD but i also doubt if they are able to recapture that crown with their current models.

    Whilst the GS maybe the King of the "Road" as described/voted by both the journalist/public via the various online/print magazines, i doubt it will ever be the King of the Dunes, like its great great great grand daddy, the venerable r80/100gs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by soma View Post
    Actually I just did a service with valve clearance at PML. Should I check with them again let them know that the bikes still feel a bit jerky? Is there something else I should do besides the valve clearance?
    Very likely the valves spec is not there... is there a loud tappy valve sound??
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    [QUOTE=NormalAspirated;6620247]There are several factors can cause bike to jerk,
    getting PML to check is definitely a good thing to do
    but I wonder they could able to solve the problems for you.
    They are more a so called human robots,
    can only use what they have to diagnose,
    change complete assembly when there is a problem
    and of course normal servicing.
    Lastly, charge a high premium and you pay to roll out your bike.
    Soon roll in and charge you again. [QUOTE]

    The high premium is what I'm afraid of...so I'm hoping to find out as much as I can before sending it in.

    I've read from bmwsporttouring website that quite a number of RT have this jerkiness or surging issue, and some of them managed to solve it by installing power commander.

    Anyone here experienced the same jerkiness and how did you solve it? And anyone installed power commanders on their before? Any feedback?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jason1202 View Post
    Very likely the valves spec is not there... is there a loud tappy valve sound??
    So far no loud tappy valve sound. But the jerkiness is more evident for 1st and 2nd gear. When go up to speed like 70-100 km, the jerkiness is gone.

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    valve clearance. how much did that cost you? i'm on RT too..


    Quote Originally Posted by jason1202 View Post
    Do yourself a favour by getting the valve clearance checked and re-check!!

    I found this out myself after re-adjusting the valves clearance and rocker arms!

    My bike now perform like a charm at low and high rev... bearly feeling and vibration!

    It will totally transform your bike and bring you to another level of understanding for the boxer engine!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NormalAspirated View Post
    I think this piece of shiit is gonna be more awesome than Super Tenere 1200.
    Many others can say all they want
    but I am quite sure BMW R1200GS is still gonna be the KING in the end of the day.

    I think the Italian design looks better than both the gs n super ten.. It the all new multistrada 1200s!!!

    I'm q GSA 1200 supporter still... Future GSA owner I hope. Or maybe try a ducati for a change.

    Anyway both bm n duc have lousy agent here... Haiz may just stick with this bm st n service it with my current excellent mech @ auto point amk lvl 5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NormalAspirated View Post
    I think this piece of shiit is gonna be more awesome than Super Tenere 1200.
    Many others can say all they want
    but I am quite sure BMW R1200GS is still gonna be the KING in the end of the day.

    Are u able to fill us in with details on this? When production due etc?

    Even better if there's a link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackie21 View Post
    The current GS has never won a Paris Dakar or any other off road event.

    Both the previous editions of the super ten and the africa twin has won the PD but i also doubt if they are able to recapture that crown with their current models.

    Whilst the GS maybe the King of the "Road" as described/voted by both the journalist/public via the various online/print magazines, i doubt it will ever be the King of the Dunes, like its great great great grand daddy, the venerable r80/100gs!
    Strictly speaking none of the GS had ever won the PD; the winning Dakar bikes were very different from the production models. Perhaps the sole exception is Jutta Kleinschmidt's machine, for she who won a ladies' Dakar event on a largely stock R100GSPD (bar shock and perhaps the mandatory water-carrying tank requirements to pass scruinteering. The present oilheads took part in the guise of the R900RR (I think in 2000 or 2001) but those ran on carbs; and later the rules excluded the twins from the competition.

    It is also likely that the Dakar Yamahas and the ATs were modified for the rally, in engine capacity and/or frame as well.

    I do recall that the HP2 won the Erzberg Rodeo at its first try, which I think is a true testament to the bike and rider when the field consists of the world's best off-road / trials / trail riders and lighter machines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soma View Post
    So far no loud tappy valve sound. But the jerkiness is more evident for 1st and 2nd gear. When go up to speed like 70-100 km, the jerkiness is gone.
    99% is tight valves.... I face the same problem as you when i first did my own valve clearance... too tight.

    If you are hands on type, it will be damn easy to do it yourself...
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    [QUOTE=soma;6620991]
    Quote Originally Posted by NormalAspirated View Post

    Anyone here experienced the same jerkiness and how did you solve it? And anyone installed power commanders on their before? Any feedback?
    The source of surging on the oilheads are well-documented and seems to be commonplace.

    I think that some part of it is due to riders of other marques crossing over to the boxers and getting used to the bikes. Surging is usually addressed by installing a crossover pipe with or without an aftermarket muffler, use of fuel mix enriching devices (like tecfusion) or by balancing the injectors.

    In theory and looking at the mechanical process valve clearances should not cause surging.

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    just a note, as i have been buying parts from overseas a lot and for a long time, am able to get EBC discs (approx $220 each) and complete clutch replacements (approx $520, for 2 friction, 2 housing and bolts) for i would suspect what is less than what you need to pay here, even after taking into consideration shipping but there will be an element of FX fluctuation.

    do not ask me for a qoute as i am not a dealer/agent/shop, just a fellow biker, if you lot interested, i can help purchase but will need you guys to pay me when you are making the order. also if oyu reckon i have overpaid, please let me know.


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    Quote Originally Posted by soma View Post

    The source of surging on the oilheads are well-documented and seems to be commonplace.

    I think that some part of it is due to riders of other marques crossing over to the boxers and getting used to the bikes. Surging is usually addressed by installing a crossover pipe with or without an aftermarket muffler, use of fuel mix enriching devices (like tecfusion) or by balancing the injectors.

    In theory and looking at the mechanical process valve clearances should not cause surging.

    Cheers

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    Hi Coolcat,

    I have no idea how the surging or rough vibration or watever you guys call it, relates to valve clearance.

    For my case, the roughness came from loose rockers arms and tight exhuast valve. I did not experience surging as a matter of fact, just very rough engine. It was making alot of noise and very rough vibration at low RPM.

    The spec call for 0.30mm for the exhuast valve. When i did the clearance last week, a 0.2mm feeler gauge can bearly fit in. This is a very commen problem and it is known to cause overheating and roughness to the bike. Bear in mind that i did two valve clearances within 5000km....

    The rocker arms were also very loose, 0.30mm and 0.25mm.

    After adjusting the rocker arms to lower end of the spec(0.10mm), i am enjoying a super smooth engine now. Especially and low RPM.

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    Most other stuffs tight is good ...



    He has behavior problems, he like hand jobs ...
    Of course! this i agrees with you totally!! So when you wanna organise a trip to check "other" tightness issues?
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    Bro, another teaser for you ...

    oooh..
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    i believe those are RTs wheels..
    off to beemer boneyard then..
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    [QUOTE=jason1202;6622391]
    Quote Originally Posted by coolcat View Post

    I have no idea how the surging or rough vibration or watever you guys call it, relates to valve clearance.

    We were on different planes then. I was referring to the surging (irregular RPMs) that some machines have at about 3,000 rpm or so.

    Good to know that valve clearance can eliminate irregular idling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soma View Post

    The source of surging on the oilheads are well-documented and seems to be commonplace.

    I think that some part of it is due to riders of other marques crossing over to the boxers and getting used to the bikes. Surging is usually addressed by installing a crossover pipe with or without an aftermarket muffler, use of fuel mix enriching devices (like tecfusion) or by balancing the injectors.

    In theory and looking at the mechanical process valve clearances should not cause surging.

    Cheers

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    Thanks for all the replies, really appreciate it. I've bikes with other engines before e.g. inline4, twin, etc, but the surging for the RT really feels quite pronounced. Will try riding some more, hopefully will get used to the bike after a while. Other than the surging at certain revs, I really like the engine and how it delivers its power.

    Also experiencing some popping on deceleration. Is this normal?

    Is balancing the injectors a costly affair?

     

     
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    oh look...

    Best Selling Bike



    BMW Motorrad

    After recently announcing increased sales in the second quarter of 2010, BMW Motorrad reported additional positivity for the month of July.

    During these tough economic times, BMW Motorrad sales in July rose by 4.4 percent to 10,022 motorcycles over 500cc, a segment that's been on the negative side of sales across all manufacturers lately. In July 2009, BMW sold 9,604 motorcycles over 500cc.

    With its young range of models, BMW Motorrad reported sales growth of 18.5 percent to 67,037 (prev. yr. 56,578) vehicles in the year to the end of July. The large long-distance enduro, the BMW R 1200 GS, remains the best-selling model in the BMW motorcycle range.

    The GS will be celebrating its 30th anniversary this year. It is the most successful BMW motorcycle ever built and has become the world's best-selling motorcycle in the 500 cc and above range.

    This news comes after positive growth was reported in BMW Motorrad's Q2 Report. In that report, sales of BMW motorcycles increased 21.6 percent to 36,715 units sold, compared to 29,742 in the second quarter of 2009. The Bavarian manufacturer says during the first half of the year, BMW Motorrad sold 57,015 units (2009: 46,974 units). This corresponds to an increase of 21.4 percent.

    The number one seller was the long-distance enduro model, the BMW R 12000 GS. This BMW also became the best-sold bike in the 500 cc plus motorcycles segment worldwide.

    Sales of the S 1000 RR - the first supersport bike manufactured by BMW Motorrad - reached a total of 6,459 units worldwide in the six-month period from January to June (of which 1,223 were sold in June).
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    Also experiencing some popping on deceleration. Is this normal?
    Are you running on any aftermarket pipes?
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    Good Day Gentlemen,

    I have the strong urge to buy the F800GS over Yamaha XT660Z, In need of all your feedbacks on bike's (Beemer) reliabilities. Is it value for money apart from its looks, brand or some say lifestyle? After reading the posts here, I got myself confused if it really cost a bomb to own a Beemer. I do not want to rush in, get one and regret it later. Just don't wana burn my pocket unnecessarily.

    Apart from bike's reliabilities, I would like to know more about its maintenance & costs, pros & cons..etc.. or what should/would I expect from it?

    Just want to own a good bike for riding up North. Don't want to get a wrong bike!

    I welcome & appreciate honest feedbacks. Please Advice.

    Cheers!
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    [QUOTE=yem_paul;6624850]
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    Are you running on any aftermarket pipes?
    no just stock pipes

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    hey guys, any good GS deals in the market? Still looking out. Any good leads is appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RIX View Post
    hey guys, any good GS deals in the market? Still looking out. Any good leads is appreciated.
    Hi there,

    What is deemed a good deal for you?

    Maybe then we can look out....

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    Anyone going for The 3 nation ride ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverstx View Post
    Anyone going for The 3 nation ride ?
    I am going. Staying at Hotel GP.
    My ride is white GSA. I see you there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NormalAspirated View Post
    I am going. Staying at Hotel GP.
    My ride is white GSA. I see you there.
    When U intend to ride up ? I going on Thursday night and back on sunday morning. If yr timing is the same maybe we can ride together. I'm riding a smoke grey GSA.

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    hi guys, i am riding a R1150GS recently i found there is some rattling noise on the right trottle body and its kinda annoying anyone here know wat causes the noise ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverstx View Post
    Anyone going for The 3 nation ride ?
    Going on my green RT
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    Quote Originally Posted by fusionzone View Post
    hi guys, i am riding a R1150GS recently i found there is some rattling noise on the right trottle body and its kinda annoying anyone here know wat causes the noise ?
    To answer your question, I guess our brother Jason1202 is the best suits.
    Sound like tappet or throttle off syn isn't it ???

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    Spot on by Bro John...
    Life is short, Ride Hard!!

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    hey normalaspirated, insightful point. just a little late in noticing your reply. i take it that u're riding a gs. have u test ridden a MS?


    Quote Originally Posted by NormalAspirated View Post
    Basically is Germans vs Italian.
    IMPO, this comparison clips by MCN is neither good enough nor fair.
    Claiming Ducati is better all rounder is unacceptable because they had yet to put the bike to Africa roads especially Kenya.
    Generally, for those who drives and rides continental vehicles knows that German machines are more reliable.
    Buyer will end up following their heart or he/she has more money to burn to uphold the machine.
    GS is engineered with a deep R&D on end user prospective whereas MS coming from Sports bike origins.
    In the technical details, wheel size had already tells you something - GS is 19/17 and MS 17/17. The bike is more agile in the bends.
    GS with bigger seat had already tells you that is more comfortable for long endurance rides.
    GS series has bigger bro called Adventure, MS has bigger bro called the “S Model”.
    “S Model” is a better equipped road bike with better parts, so how to justify Ducati is a better “All Rounder” which has never send into serious dirt test ?
    Adam and Trevor are just doing their job.
    End of the day, is just another motorcycle production that can add into your stable depends on how you want it.
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    they gotta have a pic of the dude along NSH.

    Quote Originally Posted by NormalAspirated View Post
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    Quote:
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    So far no loud tappy valve sound. But the jerkiness is more evident for 1st and 2nd gear. When go up to speed like 70-100 km, the jerkiness is gone.

    Quote Originally Posted by jason1202 View Post
    99% is tight valves.... I face the same problem as you when i first did my own valve clearance... too tight.

    If you are hands on type, it will be damn easy to do it yourself...

    +1 on that. Usually when the bike is trying to get past 3000 rpm.
    Once past 3k it revs smoothly. Happen to me too.

    This may be useful if you are Checking valves:
    http://www.r1200gs.info/howto/valve-adj.html
    Same proceedure for Oilheads. Clearance is also same.
    (.15mm/.006" on the intakes, .30mm/.012"on the exhausts).

    If you experience Surging i.e rpm goes up and down by itself then try
    Throttle Body Synching. PDF article here:
    http://www.advrider.com/Wisdom/TBS4Dv1.0.pdf

    Hope that helps.

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