User Tag List

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 50 of 87

Thread: Common Mistakes

  1. #1
    donutBoy
    has no status.
    Class 2B donutBoy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Posts
    330
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default



    hi all,

    found this while clearing up some old files.
    tink it may have been posted before but still worth a read

    What have you done wrong today?

    Recognising mistakes is the first step to becoming a better rider. Here are
    15 of the most common ones ? and how you can avoid them.

    MISTAKE: ASSUMING DRIVERS CAN'T/WON'T ATTEMPT THE SAME OVERTAKE AS YOU
    HOW many times have you gone to overtake a slow-moving vehicle only to have
    a car pull out from the queue behind it to attempt the same thing? That's
    frustrating if you see him swerving out in time, downright dangerous if you
    don't.
    Always assume the driver won't have seen you, let alone given you a second
    thought. And bear in mind that the higher performance the car, the more
    likely the driver is to attempt the manoeuvre. One thing the Porsche driver
    has in common with a Ford driver is he is less likely to look behind before
    making his move than you are. His chances for overtakes are fewer than your
    own, so his frustration is greater. If he sees a gap he'll go and it's
    hard luck if you are alongside at the time. So if you are going to go past
    him, go as far to the other side of the road as you can in case he swerves
    out, and go past at a speed at which you can abort if the need arises.
    While you are waiting to overtake, don't get too close to his rear. Act as
    if you are on a long piece of elastic strung out behind the vehicle you
    want to overtake. When your view of the road ahead is blocked, drop back
    (stretching the elastic). As you scan ahead, try to predict when the view
    might open up (on the exit of a corner, for example) and start accelerating
    with the intention of being in the right position to overtake when you
    first see the road ahead is clear. You'll actually find the exits of
    corners are often the best and safest places to whip by.

    MISTAKE: HOLDING TOO TIGHT/BEING TOO TENSE
    There's no need for a leotard or a Yoga class, but to be fast, smooth, safe
    and focused on a bike you need to be relaxed. Remember the time you got
    buzzed by a rapid rider passing you? When the red mist descended you got
    more than angry, you got tense. You may have felt fast because your riding
    was erratic, but you didn't go faster. He got farther and farther away.
    Relax and start to flow and you're more likely to reel him in, even if you
    feel like you are going slower.
    Tensing up is an all too natural response. Almost overshoot a corner and
    the fear makes arms and legs stiffen. Your rigidity hampers the movement of
    your bike's suspension (you are effectively fighting back against its
    movement) which makes the risk of you losing control even greater. You fear
    this, get even more tense and, if you don't break the cycle, you'll end up
    breaking your motorcycle.
    You may feel this doesn't apply to you. To find out, do this simple test.
    Find yourself a corner and, while you ride round it, try waggling your
    elbows up and down. If doing this " funky chicken " upsets your bike, you
    are holding too tight. Holding on too hard also increases your risk of
    having a tankslapper.

    MISTAKE: FAILING TO MAKE THE MOST OF THE CLUES IN YOUR VIEW
    THE best riders are those who use every clue they can to see where the road
    is going.
    That gives them time to react to the ever-changing view without fear of the
    unknown chiming in to slow their ride.
    Others ride like a man walking down the street but staring at his feet.
    Before too long they are going to bump into something. You tend to end up
    going where you are looking.
    The big advantage a bike has on the road is that it can be moved from side
    to side to improve your view. Unless the surface or other hazards dictate
    otherwise, always ride on the part of the road that gives you the greatest
    view ahead.
    The vanishing point (the point at which the road disappears from view) now
    becomes a useful go-faster tool. If that point is coming closer to you then
    you should slow down or at least keep the throttle constant, as this shows
    the bend is tightening. If it is getting farther away from you, the corner
    is opening out and you should start powering out.
    Police riders have to do a commentary on their ride during tests,
    describing every hazard they see, where the road ahead is going and what
    the surfaces are like. Try doing a commentary to yourself next time you
    ride. Keep it up and you'll learn to make use of the things you are seeing
    to tell you when and where you can pile on the power. You'll end up
    cracking on smoother than ever.

    MISTAKE: RIDING AS IF ALL ROAD SURFACES ARE THE SAME
    TWO things keep us on the road. One is our tyres, the other is the road
    surface. If we haven't got a good bond between them we're going to struggle
    to ride fast. Watch the road surface and learn how your bike feels when
    it's on different surfaces.
    We know what happens if we hit a drain cover or metal studs while cranked
    over, but some roads, where you see black lines in the bitumen where cars
    have started to wear out the road, can be just as slippery. Reading the
    surface can also give you advance warning of what is around the next bend.
    See horse manure and it ain't an all-girl marching band you can expect to
    find on the next straight. Lots of skidmarks from heavy braking could
    suggest the next corner is tighter than it initially looks. Remember the
    rubber part of the story, too. We all know someone who crashed on new tyres
    - cold tyres can be just as dangerous. Be patient, take the time to warm
    them, then enjoy.

    MISTAKE: CLUMSY THROTTLE CONTROL
    IT takes more than just a big handful on the straights to go fast. Used
    properly, the throttle is the key to getting round corners quickly. Take
    time to get to know how your bike reacts to your throttle inputs.
    The best way to discover its effects is to find a favourite corner and go
    into it a little slower than normal. As soon as you are in the turn, gently
    open the throttle. A constant throttle balances the bike. Accelerate too
    hard and the rear will squat too much, lightening the front and reducing
    the control you have through the front tyre. Roll off the throttle and the
    bike will be slowing through the turn, loading up the front and potentially
    overwhelming it. Keep it constant and, as the exit opens up, open the
    throttle more to drive firmly out of the bend. You will end up smoother in
    both the dry and the wet.
    Once you've got this nailed down you can start looking for more
    acceleration out of the bend. The closer to upright the bike is the more
    throttle you can feed in, as an upright bike puts more rubber in contact
    with the road and is less prone to stepping out. Get the bike in the
    powerband and feed it in gently, always being aware that the rear tyre
    could slide if you're trying really hard.
    Many make the mistake of going round corners in too high a gear. Ideally,
    you should be in a gear you can go round the whole turn in, as changing
    ratios can unsettle the bike when cranked over. Keep the revs relatively
    high and the bike is less likely to wallow.

    MISTAKE: FILTERING TOO FAST
    IT'S a busy Bank Holiday and you are filtering through the car park that is
    the M25. Check your mirrors moment by moment for signs of riders even more
    impatient than you. And keep looking ahead for signs of movement from cars
    and lorries. Look at the wheels. Are they steering to change lanes? Look at
    the drivers. Are they looking in their mirrors? Are they turning their
    heads? Look out for indicators ? a lot of drivers seem to think they only
    have to turn them on to have the right of way.
    Filtering is illegal in some countries. Here the police tend to accept it
    if you are going
    4-5mph more than the traffic. Whip through lanes of parked cars at 40mph
    and expect Plod to get excited. He has good reason.

    MISTAKE: TRYING TOO HARD TO GET YOUR KNEE DOWN
    THERE'S nothing on a bike more satisfying than grinding your kneesliders to
    dust, but if you have never quite achieved that it may not be because you
    can't, just you want to too much. Staring at your slider and willing it
    towards the deck is likely to slow you and make a knee-down harder to
    achieve. Concentrate on your riding and accept your knee will kiss the deck
    when your riding is right.
    It's best left to the grippy surfaces of a track day. But if you can't
    wait, find a well-surfaced roundabout at a quiet time of day. You need one
    you can get round at about 40-50mph.
    Ride it a few times to set yourself up and get your tyres warm and attempt
    to get at least one buttock off the side of the seat. Go round the corner a
    little faster than you normally would and probe down with your knee. If it
    doesn't go down it could be that you're not sticking your knee out in the
    right place or you're not going fast enough.
    The key is to concentrate on your lines and keeping your corner speed
    smooth.
    If the police show up, don't argue, move along.

    MISTAKE: ADJUSTING YOUR CHAIN TOO TIGHTLY
    ALLOWING less than an inch of movement up and down in the chain not only
    means the next big bump will put a tight spot in it, it can also affect
    your bike's handling.
    If the chain's too stiff it will upset the bike by restricting the movement
    of the swingarm and you will essentially have an extra, and unpredictable,
    damper. One-and-a-half-inches is a better guideline, though you should
    refer to your manufacturers' handbook for precise details. It may look a
    little loose while you are staring at it from the side of the bike, but
    don't forget how much difference the addition of your weight will make.
    Getting the adjustment right is particularly important on bikes with
    long-travel suspension. Check your handbook and follow what it says. Some
    require adjusting on a centrestand or paddock stand to be set correctly.
    It's not worth gambling with.

    MISTAKE: FAILING TO LOOK INTO SLIP ROADS
    PERIPHERAL vision tends to only register when something is moving.
    If a truck is coming towards you down a slip road, your peripheral vision
    will pick it up only if it is moving fast enough to meet the road safely
    ahead of you, or slow enough to meet it after you have passed the junction.
    But you won't notice the one on a collision course with you, because it is
    closing at the same relative speed you are. In order to create the movement
    you need to pick up that potential killer, you should turn your head to
    look into the slip road. Now, looking directly into the slip road, you'll
    see any danger. It's also a top tip to check there are no coppers skulking
    up there with plans to catch the unwary.

    MISTAKE: APEXING CORNERS TOO EARLY
    TRYING to apex a corner without seeing where it ends is always likely to be
    difficult. It could mean you cut in too early, then find you are heading
    for a kerb and have to create another apex to get round the corner when you
    finally work out where it actually goes.
    The best position you can find to see round a corner also gives you the
    most road to play with on the entry and exit. On right-handers, you should
    start off as far left as you can and on left-handers you should move to the
    right.
    Look where you want to go rather than fixing on the hedge that may be
    threatening your finance deal and you'll go where you look (think about a
    U-turn and you'll know what we mean).
    There are three elements to getting round a corner: Entry, apex and exit.
    Getting a good view is the key, and the way you'll get to part three
    quickest.
    On a left-hander, stay out towards the centre white line until you get the
    view to the exit and then start moving away from the white line to take
    advantage of the camber and to give yourself more margin for error between
    you and oncoming traffic.
    On a right-hander, start close to the kerb, stay deep until you see the
    exit, and then start moving away from the gutter to reduce the adverse
    impact of the camber when you want to drive hard out of the corner.
    Try a racing line and the camber is likely to force you on to a wider line
    than you had intended.
    You'll also get less view through the kind of cluttered bends we experience
    on the road.
    The best line for a good view is also the best line for speed on our hectic
    roads.

    MISTAKE: PLAYING CATCH-UP
    TRYING to keep up with someone you know has more experience can put the
    pressure on. Pride might force you to try too hard and, while stretching
    yourself is good, going beyond your limits is dangerous.
    When you ride in a group, the last person often has to go considerably
    faster than the man at the front ? to make up for the reaction lag between
    the leader deciding to accelerate and the last rider in the chain realising
    he has gone.
    It means the last man could end up charging into the next corner much
    faster than the man at the front of the queue.
    Next time you're leading a group, spare a thought for the blokes behind.

    MISTAKE: RIDING TO IMPRESS YOUR PILLION
    PILLIONS have a drastic effect on the way your bike performs.
    Try to ride like a loon and you are likely to end up dangerously, and
    unimpressively, erratic.
    The key to riding fast with pillions is the same as with any fast ride:
    Keep it smooth. Feed in the acceleration gently and be easy on the brakes.
    No pillion wants to be head-butting your lid and I'm sure you don't want
    them mashing your Arai either.
    You can use more rear brake than you would when riding solo. It helps
    steady the bike and stops the forks diving so much. The extra weight over
    the rear tyre means the back is less likely to slide under braking than
    usual, too.
    For the same reason, the rear suspension is likely to squat more under
    power so be ready for your front to lift if you roll on too hard.

    MISTAKE: AVOIDING WET ROADS
    RESALE values, the desire to keep your bike looking showroom-fresh and your
    leathers free from grime keeps many off the road when the clouds turn grey.
    But rather than fearing the slippery conditions rain can bring, you should
    make the most of them to help you become faster and smoother.
    True, there is less margin for error in the wet, but that's a really good
    incentive to keep it smooth. Restrained use of the throttle, sweeping,
    smooth lines and progressive braking are all ideal wet-weather techniques
    which translate usefully into faster dry-road riding.

    MISTAKE: IGNORING THE DANGERS OF CRESTS
    THE wrap-yourself-in-cotton-wool approach to riding dictates you should
    always be able to stop in the distance you can see to be clear. In the real
    world it is certainly best to slow down a bit when you can't see what's
    coming.
    Blind crests of hills are good examples. Try to get airborne over the hump
    and you could end up in the back of a combine harvester lurking on the
    other side.
    Ease off and put yourself halfway between the white lines and the kerb.
    That gives you room to react to slow-moving farm traffic on the left, and
    idiot car drivers drifting from the right.

    MISTAKE: FAILING TO WORK ON YOUR BRAKING
    GRABBING a panicked handful, or being reluctant to brake hard enough for
    fear of locked wheels, means many of us do not make the most of our brakes.
    Of course, if your observation of the road ahead is painfully perfect you
    should never find yourself running out of brakes on the road. But we've all
    charged on presuming the granny in the Metro at the crossroads has spotted
    us. When she doesn't, you may have to rely on hard and effective braking.
    It's best you find out how before you are faced with a real emergency.
    Find a quiet, clean-surfaced and relatively camber-free stretch of road.
    Set yourself a marker and try stopping at it from varying speeds. Start at
    20mph and gradually build to as fast as you feel comfortable with. You'll
    see how quick you can stop, even from high speeds.
    More importantly, the practice will teach you to trust your brakes not to
    spit you off the first time you use them in anger.
    Don't grab the lever as hard as you can (the rear brake is next to useless
    in emergency braking, the rear locks easily and can slide, because weight
    is transferred forward). Squeeze it progressively ? gently at first, with
    increasing firmness as you slow.
    Braking during cornering is rarely recommended.
    Using the front brake will stand the bike up at best and dangerously
    overwhelm the front tyre at worst. But if you are running wide, using the
    rear brake gently (and only the rear brake) can tighten your line to help
    you make it round.

  2. #2
    danieltanboonhuat
    has no status.
    TeePee danieltanboonhuat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Singapore. Hougang
    Posts
    3,786
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    good
    For you O Lord, will bless the righteous; with favor You shall surround him as with a shield. Psalm 5:12

     

     
  3. #3
    Non Stop Racing
    im the only one who can walk on both worlds - im Ghostrider
    TeePee Non Stop Racing's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Posts
    2,727
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    worthy advice ! thumbs uP
    'R6' RedlineRocketRedesignRazor sharpRevolutionaryReward 6.

  4. #4
    koburn
    has no status.
    P Plate koburn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    S'pore
    Posts
    92
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    1980-1998 - SBS,MRT
    1999-1999 - CB125T from SSDC
    2000-2002 - WR200
    2003-2004 - TZR125,MRT,Comfort,Citycab
    2004- Ducati Monster 400

  5. #5
    seekie
    has no status.
    Class 2A
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    716
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    got one more

    MISTAKE: RIDING WHEN FEELING ANGRY OR PISSED OFF

    Even a slow-rider will become a speed-demon in this situation. On top of the anger one is experiencing, one will get shocked as well due to the different handling and aggressiveness in riding. This will most probably result in kissing other vehicles or the road.


    hehe, talk c*** only.

  6. #6
    nE0
    nE0
    has no status.
    Edit
    Guest

    Default

    When I'm pissed off, I'll accelerate very hard from traffic lights, but I never go over the speed limit, and I never overtake dangerously or squeeze between moving cars.

  7. #7
    danieltanboonhuat
    has no status.
    TeePee danieltanboonhuat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Singapore. Hougang
    Posts
    3,786
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    good for you
    For you O Lord, will bless the righteous; with favor You shall surround him as with a shield. Psalm 5:12

  8. #8
    aH_gUAn
    has no status.
    Class 2A
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Singapore
    Posts
    544
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Honda NSR150 SP : Feb 04 - Feb 05
    Honda CB400 Spec II : Jun 05 - Jan 08
    Nissan Latio : Feb 08 - ???

  9. #9
    Lucas
    has no status.
    TeePee Lucas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    On the Right Lane
    Posts
    2,380
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    A very informative piece of information...

  10. #10
    tony15gck
    tony15gck
    has no status.
    Edit
    Guest

    Default

    Wow,

    looks like the few common mistakes mentioned here are linked to our emotional state of mind.. anger, pride, fear, etc..

    So always be cool should shelve most of the common mistakes by riders..

    I especially like the part about catching up, i was once slow in the pack and thanks goodness my friends were all willing to wait for me as i was a new rider.

  11. #11
    Arcfire
    has no status.
    TeePee Arcfire's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Location
    At Home
    Posts
    4,873
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Great tips!


    Jun 2002 - May 2003 ~ NSR150SP
    May2003 - Dec 2006 ~ GSXR400RR
    Oct 2006 - Present ~ Burgman AN400K3

     

     
  12. #12
    Colyn
    has no status.
    TeePee Colyn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Posts
    1,871
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    shall keep these tips in mind when i get my bike...
    haha...


    叶子的离开,是因为风的追求,还是树的不挽留?

  13. #13
    DGray
    has no status.
    TeePee
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Bed Rock (Bedok)
    Posts
    3,784
    Feedback Score
    1 (100%)
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default





  14. #14
    RustyStar
    has no status.
    Class 2 RustyStar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Woodlands
    Posts
    1,225
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Good advice. Too bad it came a lil late. I just crashed my bike last week.

  15. #15
    smokegirl
    has no status.
    P Plate
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    164
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    gOod info for newbies!!!

  16. #16
    ZZR-Pilot
    ZZR-Pilot
    has no status.
    Edit
    Guest

    Default

    Originally posted by mecha_design@Apr 23 2004, 03:47 PM
    Good advice. Too bad it came a lil late. I just crashed my bike last week.
    What happened?

  17. #17
    OrionFire
    has no status.
    Class 2B OrionFire's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Posts
    371
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Hey guys.. after reading the common mistakes.. i feel that i really have to ask a qn from experienced rider in here man..

    2 days ago, i failed my tp.. the whole course was smooth, no major mistakes..

    but they min a lot of points from 2 main mistakes: wobbling while turning and wobbling while starting off/stopping. a total OF 18 points WAS DEDUCED FROM THERE!
    wah lao.. dulan..

    i seldom have that kind of mistakes..

    maybe u all can enlightened this newbie ?

    thanks
    Ex-wives:
    Honda Phantom TA200 // Yamaha WR200
    Honda Wave 125 S // Piaggio Skipper 125
    Piaggio Vespa Excel 150 // Yamaha X1
    Gilera Runner VXR 200 // Honda Super4 Vtec2
    Yamaha Spark135 LE // Bus, MRT, LRT and Taxi

  18. #18
    BoBOKik
    BoBOKik
    has no status.
    Edit
    Guest

    Default

    Originally posted by OrionFire@Jul 2 2004, 10:45 AM
    Hey guys.. after reading the common mistakes.. i feel that i really have to ask a qn from experienced rider in here man..

    2 days ago, i failed my tp.. the whole course was smooth, no major mistakes..

    but they min a lot of points from 2 main mistakes: wobbling while turning and wobbling while starting off/stopping. a total OF 18 points WAS DEDUCED FROM THERE!
    wah lao.. dulan..

    i seldom have that kind of mistakes..

    maybe u all can enlightened this newbie ?

    thanks
    yr eye point.. u are probably nt lookin far enuf ahead of u, or u are jus lookin at yr handle bar or the ground jus in front of yr front wheel.. dats why u ended up wobbling.

  19. #19
    OrionFire
    has no status.
    Class 2B OrionFire's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Posts
    371
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Hmm.. maybe that's my mistake.. didn't look far enuff..

    but how far is enuff? 2 car length ahead?
    Ex-wives:
    Honda Phantom TA200 // Yamaha WR200
    Honda Wave 125 S // Piaggio Skipper 125
    Piaggio Vespa Excel 150 // Yamaha X1
    Gilera Runner VXR 200 // Honda Super4 Vtec2
    Yamaha Spark135 LE // Bus, MRT, LRT and Taxi

  20. #20
    Lass
    says duh
    SBF Lady Riders Lass's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Singapore - North West
    Posts
    20,047
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Originally posted by OrionFire@Jul 2 2004, 11:00 AM
    Hey guys.. after reading the common mistakes.. i feel that i really have to ask a qn from experienced rider in here man..

    2 days ago, i failed my tp.. the whole course was smooth, no major mistakes..

    but they min a lot of points from 2 main mistakes: wobbling while turning and wobbling while starting off/stopping. a total OF 18 points WAS DEDUCED FROM THERE!
    wah lao.. dulan..

    i seldom have that kind of mistakes..

    maybe u all can enlightened this newbie ?

    thanks
    wobbling while turning could be due to not enuf acceleration or u may hv jerk if u threw clutch. wobbling while moving off could also be due to ur clutch ctrl and acceleration as well and stopping at times it could oso be due to eyeline and jamming brakes too hard. trick is to use more rear brake. am a newbie myself and this r things i learn fr other experience riders. however, these days am more comfortable to using mainly front brakes cos am used to my bike and brakes

  21. #21
    stsoh
    has no status.
    TeePee stsoh's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    RED DOT
    Posts
    4,940
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    14 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Originally posted by OrionFire@Jul 2 2004, 11:00 AM
    ..... 2 main mistakes: wobbling while turning and wobbling while starting off/stopping. a total OF 18 points WAS DEDUCED FROM THERE!
    wah lao.. dulan..

    i seldom have that kind of mistakes..
    it may not be ur fault, tyres might be deflated.
    highlight this the next time they penalise u again.
    riding a motorcycle is saving fuel, why save 1 cent from a penny?
    run lean will overheat n damage the engine.
    run performance provide self-cleaning temp, will burn-off fuel residue.
    engine runs at cooler temp (combust temp@6~700 deg C).

     

     
  22. #22
    buttbutt8
    has no status.
    Class 2 buttbutt8's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Yew Tee
    Posts
    1,222
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Just mi 2 cents worth... Mi way of tackling the prob of wobbling fr moving off (esp prominent when u are pillioning a heavy pillion) is to move off faster, i.e. release more clutch (but dun throw) and throttle more... As for wobbling when turning, like someone has mention, maybe is due to insufficient acceleration coz u really can't turn properly when u are too slow... Of course ur eye-point plays a big part too.
    May 2005 - July 2007: Honda Phantom TA200 (FU 3*** S)
    July 2007 - Dec 2016: Honda CB400 Spec III (FBB 7***X)
    Dec 2016 - Aug 2017: Yamaha FZ1N (FBD 4***E)
    Aug 2017 - Present: Kawasaki Z1000SX (FBF 6***B)

    Boono

  23. #23
    Wahoo
    has no status.
    Class 2A Wahoo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    West
    Posts
    681
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    very useful info for all new & old bikers, thx
    Four Wheels Move the Body, Two Wheels Move the Soul.
    Honda Phantom TA200 || Kawasaki ZXR400 || Yamaha YZF-R6

  24. #24
    schinni
    has no status.
    P Plate schinni's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    112
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    good collation of points Should be read by all riders new and old alike

  25. #25
    nastroazzuro80
    has no status.
    Class 2 nastroazzuro80's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    sg
    Posts
    1,341
    Feedback Score
    4 (100%)
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    great tips! should try pass it to driving schools also!

  26. #26
    eusoff8casper
    has no status.
    Class 2A
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    642
    Feedback Score
    6 (100%)
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    good for new riders...like me...
    thx

  27. #27
    arun9457
    has no status.
    P Plate
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    108
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    nice but when i pissed i dont care who gets in my way i will ride like a hellrider!!!! ALL the TPs out there catch me if u can!
    GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  28. #28
    arun9457
    has no status.
    P Plate
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    108
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    hey just kidding man!!
    GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  29. #29
    ahgill
    has no status.
    L Plate ahgill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    40
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    thumbs up! I feel that the mistake: Trying to impress your pillion
    really describes me..

    Good pts u have there!

  30. #30
    zsprit_91
    has no status.
    L Plate zsprit_91's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    10
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    haiz, if only my sis bf read this.. he crash his TZM with another fren and my sis and him passed away.. but anyway, Great advice!!!!

  31. #31
    Pandora's Kitten :3
    = White Witch of Toa Payoh
    TeePee
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    H.M.S. Black Swan
    Posts
    4,869
    Feedback Score
    2 (100%)
    Mentioned
    21 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Default

    MISTAKE: LEAD VEHICLE FIXTATION

    Ever been riding happily at high speed following someone else then the next moment you find yourself emergency braking so as not to find yourself smacking into the vehicle in front?

    If you're like me and enjoy formation riding or drafting behind fast cars that catch your fancy, take heed of traffic conditions ahead of your informal "navigator". Especially dangerous are convoys of cars going fast on the e-ways during peak hours. Don't be surprised if some moron 1km ahead decides to do a lane-change/overtake without first accelerating and thus ruins all the high speed fun. In such a case the entire convoy starts decelerating, half the time very drastically, leading to a risk of accident.

    Of course, a bike can always go between the lanes to pass the clumsy 4-wheeled cows but in a no-overtake scenario the modern "cow" has ABS and your bike doesn't, so it has the safety advantage.

    MISTAKE: LOW ACCELERATION WHIST OVERTAKING

    Ever had this annoying scenario?

    You're cruising at 120kph and 400m ahead of you this fellow in a brand new car is tailgating in the middle lane at 80kph. He has plenty of space behind him and the right lane is clear, yet he insists on "pushing" the 80kph guy faster, to no avail. He gets frustrated and lane changes to the right very suddenly, and you now have to decelerate rapidly to 80kph because Mr Impatient is now in your path accelerating at a snail's pace.

    Of course, bikers like us will just say "pass him between the lanes" but some of us at least rarely like to go between the lines (I'm one of the sort).

    In the above scenario there is plenty of space behind Mr Impatient to gain speed and do a clean overtake, and he could at least downshift or step on it so as not to make himself a roadhog. Inspired by such distruptive road behaviour, I always spare the traffic the creation of a very aggressive but pathetically slow-moving irritant. Clean lane changes makes for easy driving for all.

    Filter Lane Entry to E-Ways

    I always notice bunches of vehicles trying to squeeze in as fast as possible into the E-way entry - but forget that the brakes too can be used to overtake.

    Instead of getting into a pushing contest to get ahead of this big, honking trailer truck, why not get behind the bugger to get to the middle lane ASAP?

    Bikes being more maneuverable than 4-wheeled cows, we of course can avoid the usual filter lane squeeze much more easily.

    ----

    That's all, 2 cents from a forum newbie!

     

     
  32. #32
    Mamduh
    has no status.
    Class 2B Mamduh's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    East
    Posts
    222
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Great tips for a beginer like me. I am printing for further reference. keep it up

  33. #33
    ausa
    has no status.
    Class 2 ausa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Bedok Reservoir, Singapore
    Posts
    1,004
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Thumbs down

    Yes! Rider / Driver should read, and discuss and talk about the safety

  34. #34
    ausa
    has no status.
    Class 2 ausa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Bedok Reservoir, Singapore
    Posts
    1,004
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Default Common Mistakes

    Read it again b4 u forget...

    Quote Originally Posted by donutBoy View Post
    hi all,

    found this while clearing up some old files.
    tink it may have been posted before but still worth a read

    What have you done wrong today?

    Recognising mistakes is the first step to becoming a better rider. Here are
    15 of the most common ones ? and how you can avoid them.

    MISTAKE: ASSUMING DRIVERS CAN'T/WON'T ATTEMPT THE SAME OVERTAKE AS YOU
    HOW many times have you gone to overtake a slow-moving vehicle only to have
    a car pull out from the queue behind it to attempt the same thing? That's
    frustrating if you see him swerving out in time, downright dangerous if you
    don't.
    Always assume the driver won't have seen you, let alone given you a second
    thought. And bear in mind that the higher performance the car, the more
    likely the driver is to attempt the manoeuvre. One thing the Porsche driver
    has in common with a Ford driver is he is less likely to look behind before
    making his move than you are. His chances for overtakes are fewer than your
    own, so his frustration is greater. If he sees a gap he'll go and it's
    hard luck if you are alongside at the time. So if you are going to go past
    him, go as far to the other side of the road as you can in case he swerves
    out, and go past at a speed at which you can abort if the need arises.
    While you are waiting to overtake, don't get too close to his rear. Act as
    if you are on a long piece of elastic strung out behind the vehicle you
    want to overtake. When your view of the road ahead is blocked, drop back
    (stretching the elastic). As you scan ahead, try to predict when the view
    might open up (on the exit of a corner, for example) and start accelerating
    with the intention of being in the right position to overtake when you
    first see the road ahead is clear. You'll actually find the exits of
    corners are often the best and safest places to whip by.

    MISTAKE: HOLDING TOO TIGHT/BEING TOO TENSE
    There's no need for a leotard or a Yoga class, but to be fast, smooth, safe
    and focused on a bike you need to be relaxed. Remember the time you got
    buzzed by a rapid rider passing you? When the red mist descended you got
    more than angry, you got tense. You may have felt fast because your riding
    was erratic, but you didn't go faster. He got farther and farther away.
    Relax and start to flow and you're more likely to reel him in, even if you
    feel like you are going slower.
    Tensing up is an all too natural response. Almost overshoot a corner and
    the fear makes arms and legs stiffen. Your rigidity hampers the movement of
    your bike's suspension (you are effectively fighting back against its
    movement) which makes the risk of you losing control even greater. You fear
    this, get even more tense and, if you don't break the cycle, you'll end up
    breaking your motorcycle.
    You may feel this doesn't apply to you. To find out, do this simple test.
    Find yourself a corner and, while you ride round it, try waggling your
    elbows up and down. If doing this " funky chicken " upsets your bike, you
    are holding too tight. Holding on too hard also increases your risk of
    having a tankslapper.

    MISTAKE: FAILING TO MAKE THE MOST OF THE CLUES IN YOUR VIEW
    THE best riders are those who use every clue they can to see where the road
    is going.
    That gives them time to react to the ever-changing view without fear of the
    unknown chiming in to slow their ride.
    Others ride like a man walking down the street but staring at his feet.
    Before too long they are going to bump into something. You tend to end up
    going where you are looking.
    The big advantage a bike has on the road is that it can be moved from side
    to side to improve your view. Unless the surface or other hazards dictate
    otherwise, always ride on the part of the road that gives you the greatest
    view ahead.
    The vanishing point (the point at which the road disappears from view) now
    becomes a useful go-faster tool. If that point is coming closer to you then
    you should slow down or at least keep the throttle constant, as this shows
    the bend is tightening. If it is getting farther away from you, the corner
    is opening out and you should start powering out.
    Police riders have to do a commentary on their ride during tests,
    describing every hazard they see, where the road ahead is going and what
    the surfaces are like. Try doing a commentary to yourself next time you
    ride. Keep it up and you'll learn to make use of the things you are seeing
    to tell you when and where you can pile on the power. You'll end up
    cracking on smoother than ever.

    MISTAKE: RIDING AS IF ALL ROAD SURFACES ARE THE SAME
    TWO things keep us on the road. One is our tyres, the other is the road
    surface. If we haven't got a good bond between them we're going to struggle
    to ride fast. Watch the road surface and learn how your bike feels when
    it's on different surfaces.
    We know what happens if we hit a drain cover or metal studs while cranked
    over, but some roads, where you see black lines in the bitumen where cars
    have started to wear out the road, can be just as slippery. Reading the
    surface can also give you advance warning of what is around the next bend.
    See horse manure and it ain't an all-girl marching band you can expect to
    find on the next straight. Lots of skidmarks from heavy braking could
    suggest the next corner is tighter than it initially looks. Remember the
    rubber part of the story, too. We all know someone who crashed on new tyres
    - cold tyres can be just as dangerous. Be patient, take the time to warm
    them, then enjoy.

    MISTAKE: CLUMSY THROTTLE CONTROL
    IT takes more than just a big handful on the straights to go fast. Used
    properly, the throttle is the key to getting round corners quickly. Take
    time to get to know how your bike reacts to your throttle inputs.
    The best way to discover its effects is to find a favourite corner and go
    into it a little slower than normal. As soon as you are in the turn, gently
    open the throttle. A constant throttle balances the bike. Accelerate too
    hard and the rear will squat too much, lightening the front and reducing
    the control you have through the front tyre. Roll off the throttle and the
    bike will be slowing through the turn, loading up the front and potentially
    overwhelming it. Keep it constant and, as the exit opens up, open the
    throttle more to drive firmly out of the bend. You will end up smoother in
    both the dry and the wet.
    Once you've got this nailed down you can start looking for more
    acceleration out of the bend. The closer to upright the bike is the more
    throttle you can feed in, as an upright bike puts more rubber in contact
    with the road and is less prone to stepping out. Get the bike in the
    powerband and feed it in gently, always being aware that the rear tyre
    could slide if you're trying really hard.
    Many make the mistake of going round corners in too high a gear. Ideally,
    you should be in a gear you can go round the whole turn in, as changing
    ratios can unsettle the bike when cranked over. Keep the revs relatively
    high and the bike is less likely to wallow.

    MISTAKE: FILTERING TOO FAST
    IT'S a busy Bank Holiday and you are filtering through the car park that is
    the M25. Check your mirrors moment by moment for signs of riders even more
    impatient than you. And keep looking ahead for signs of movement from cars
    and lorries. Look at the wheels. Are they steering to change lanes? Look at
    the drivers. Are they looking in their mirrors? Are they turning their
    heads? Look out for indicators ? a lot of drivers seem to think they only
    have to turn them on to have the right of way.
    Filtering is illegal in some countries. Here the police tend to accept it
    if you are going
    4-5mph more than the traffic. Whip through lanes of parked cars at 40mph
    and expect Plod to get excited. He has good reason.

    MISTAKE: TRYING TOO HARD TO GET YOUR KNEE DOWN
    THERE'S nothing on a bike more satisfying than grinding your kneesliders to
    dust, but if you have never quite achieved that it may not be because you
    can't, just you want to too much. Staring at your slider and willing it
    towards the deck is likely to slow you and make a knee-down harder to
    achieve. Concentrate on your riding and accept your knee will kiss the deck
    when your riding is right.
    It's best left to the grippy surfaces of a track day. But if you can't
    wait, find a well-surfaced roundabout at a quiet time of day. You need one
    you can get round at about 40-50mph.
    Ride it a few times to set yourself up and get your tyres warm and attempt
    to get at least one buttock off the side of the seat. Go round the corner a
    little faster than you normally would and probe down with your knee. If it
    doesn't go down it could be that you're not sticking your knee out in the
    right place or you're not going fast enough.
    The key is to concentrate on your lines and keeping your corner speed
    smooth.
    If the police show up, don't argue, move along.

    MISTAKE: ADJUSTING YOUR CHAIN TOO TIGHTLY
    ALLOWING less than an inch of movement up and down in the chain not only
    means the next big bump will put a tight spot in it, it can also affect
    your bike's handling.
    If the chain's too stiff it will upset the bike by restricting the movement
    of the swingarm and you will essentially have an extra, and unpredictable,
    damper. One-and-a-half-inches is a better guideline, though you should
    refer to your manufacturers' handbook for precise details. It may look a
    little loose while you are staring at it from the side of the bike, but
    don't forget how much difference the addition of your weight will make.
    Getting the adjustment right is particularly important on bikes with
    long-travel suspension. Check your handbook and follow what it says. Some
    require adjusting on a centrestand or paddock stand to be set correctly.
    It's not worth gambling with.

    MISTAKE: FAILING TO LOOK INTO SLIP ROADS
    PERIPHERAL vision tends to only register when something is moving.
    If a truck is coming towards you down a slip road, your peripheral vision
    will pick it up only if it is moving fast enough to meet the road safely
    ahead of you, or slow enough to meet it after you have passed the junction.
    But you won't notice the one on a collision course with you, because it is
    closing at the same relative speed you are. In order to create the movement
    you need to pick up that potential killer, you should turn your head to
    look into the slip road. Now, looking directly into the slip road, you'll
    see any danger. It's also a top tip to check there are no coppers skulking
    up there with plans to catch the unwary.

    MISTAKE: APEXING CORNERS TOO EARLY
    TRYING to apex a corner without seeing where it ends is always likely to be
    difficult. It could mean you cut in too early, then find you are heading
    for a kerb and have to create another apex to get round the corner when you
    finally work out where it actually goes.
    The best position you can find to see round a corner also gives you the
    most road to play with on the entry and exit. On right-handers, you should
    start off as far left as you can and on left-handers you should move to the
    right.
    Look where you want to go rather than fixing on the hedge that may be
    threatening your finance deal and you'll go where you look (think about a
    U-turn and you'll know what we mean).
    There are three elements to getting round a corner: Entry, apex and exit.
    Getting a good view is the key, and the way you'll get to part three
    quickest.
    On a left-hander, stay out towards the centre white line until you get the
    view to the exit and then start moving away from the white line to take
    advantage of the camber and to give yourself more margin for error between
    you and oncoming traffic.
    On a right-hander, start close to the kerb, stay deep until you see the
    exit, and then start moving away from the gutter to reduce the adverse
    impact of the camber when you want to drive hard out of the corner.
    Try a racing line and the camber is likely to force you on to a wider line
    than you had intended.
    You'll also get less view through the kind of cluttered bends we experience
    on the road.
    The best line for a good view is also the best line for speed on our hectic
    roads.

    MISTAKE: PLAYING CATCH-UP
    TRYING to keep up with someone you know has more experience can put the
    pressure on. Pride might force you to try too hard and, while stretching
    yourself is good, going beyond your limits is dangerous.
    When you ride in a group, the last person often has to go considerably
    faster than the man at the front ? to make up for the reaction lag between
    the leader deciding to accelerate and the last rider in the chain realising
    he has gone.
    It means the last man could end up charging into the next corner much
    faster than the man at the front of the queue.
    Next time you're leading a group, spare a thought for the blokes behind.

    MISTAKE: RIDING TO IMPRESS YOUR PILLION
    PILLIONS have a drastic effect on the way your bike performs.
    Try to ride like a loon and you are likely to end up dangerously, and
    unimpressively, erratic.
    The key to riding fast with pillions is the same as with any fast ride:
    Keep it smooth. Feed in the acceleration gently and be easy on the brakes.
    No pillion wants to be head-butting your lid and I'm sure you don't want
    them mashing your Arai either.
    You can use more rear brake than you would when riding solo. It helps
    steady the bike and stops the forks diving so much. The extra weight over
    the rear tyre means the back is less likely to slide under braking than
    usual, too.
    For the same reason, the rear suspension is likely to squat more under
    power so be ready for your front to lift if you roll on too hard.

    MISTAKE: AVOIDING WET ROADS
    RESALE values, the desire to keep your bike looking showroom-fresh and your
    leathers free from grime keeps many off the road when the clouds turn grey.
    But rather than fearing the slippery conditions rain can bring, you should
    make the most of them to help you become faster and smoother.
    True, there is less margin for error in the wet, but that's a really good
    incentive to keep it smooth. Restrained use of the throttle, sweeping,
    smooth lines and progressive braking are all ideal wet-weather techniques
    which translate usefully into faster dry-road riding.

    MISTAKE: IGNORING THE DANGERS OF CRESTS
    THE wrap-yourself-in-cotton-wool approach to riding dictates you should
    always be able to stop in the distance you can see to be clear. In the real
    world it is certainly best to slow down a bit when you can't see what's
    coming.
    Blind crests of hills are good examples. Try to get airborne over the hump
    and you could end up in the back of a combine harvester lurking on the
    other side.
    Ease off and put yourself halfway between the white lines and the kerb.
    That gives you room to react to slow-moving farm traffic on the left, and
    idiot car drivers drifting from the right.

    MISTAKE: FAILING TO WORK ON YOUR BRAKING
    GRABBING a panicked handful, or being reluctant to brake hard enough for
    fear of locked wheels, means many of us do not make the most of our brakes.
    Of course, if your observation of the road ahead is painfully perfect you
    should never find yourself running out of brakes on the road. But we've all
    charged on presuming the granny in the Metro at the crossroads has spotted
    us. When she doesn't, you may have to rely on hard and effective braking.
    It's best you find out how before you are faced with a real emergency.
    Find a quiet, clean-surfaced and relatively camber-free stretch of road.
    Set yourself a marker and try stopping at it from varying speeds. Start at
    20mph and gradually build to as fast as you feel comfortable with. You'll
    see how quick you can stop, even from high speeds.
    More importantly, the practice will teach you to trust your brakes not to
    spit you off the first time you use them in anger.
    Don't grab the lever as hard as you can (the rear brake is next to useless
    in emergency braking, the rear locks easily and can slide, because weight
    is transferred forward). Squeeze it progressively ? gently at first, with
    increasing firmness as you slow.
    Braking during cornering is rarely recommended.
    Using the front brake will stand the bike up at best and dangerously
    overwhelm the front tyre at worst. But if you are running wide, using the
    rear brake gently (and only the rear brake) can tighten your line to help
    you make it round.

  35. #35
    jeriwajac
    has no status.
    Class 2A jeriwajac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Jurong, Singapore
    Posts
    798
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    wow! learnt more here than during all those lessons in riding school.
    they ought to teach these stuff.......

  36. #36
    rayzurrector
    has no status.
    L Plate
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    4
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    cool tips.. will bear those points in mind when riding.. especially when im a slow rider.. haha..

  37. #37
    Bay
    has no status.
    TeePee Bay's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    4,294
    Feedback Score
    4 (100%)
    Mentioned
    38 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    good article! learnt alot from it! =D
    It's not how fast you ride, but how well you ride.

  38. #38
    Firhas Bizar
    has no status.
    Class 2A Firhas Bizar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Bukit Panjang
    Posts
    725
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    wow. cant believe the first post is 4 years ago. But there's still not much of a change in Singapore drivers.

  39. #39
    stanco
    has no status.
    SBF Fazers stanco's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Highway To Hell
    Posts
    3,781
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    11 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    i beg to differ. i think they did change, but for the worse that is.
    肥仔七千号

  40. #40
    [B]IKER
    has no status.
    Class 2A [B]IKER's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Clementi
    Posts
    630
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Bay View Post
    good article! learnt alot from it! =D
    Me too... thanks for digging out the thread... If not, I would have never read it..

    Quote Originally Posted by RaZiD View Post
    wow. cant believe the first post is 4 years ago. But there's still not much of a change in Singapore drivers.
    Well, can't expect much.. just stick to the lanes and be aware of your surroundings..

    a leopard can't change it spots..


    Phantom TA150 ----- Gone
    CB400 Spec2---------Gone
    Yamaha X-1----------Gone
    CB400 Spec1.||| -------- Gone

    Honda Silverwing 400 - FOR SALE

  41. #41
    HaiR1
    has no status.
    TeePee
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Lion City
    Posts
    4,796
    Feedback Score
    18 (100%)
    Mentioned
    11 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    goood & useful guide....

     

     
  42. #42
    ChaoPuzzy1968
    has no status, no money and YUP YUP
    SBF Lacer ChaoPuzzy1968's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Woodlands Singapore
    Posts
    9,838
    Feedback Score
    1 (100%)
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    thanks. for diggin up this post
    Life sux..Take control ..and live it and pick yourselves up now.. die later
    if the roads end ....i go off road
    Honda Shadow ACE 400 1997
    V-strom 1k
    Dr 200

    "Bikers Don't bleed, we mark our territory"...
    "Bikers Don't leave our body behind , we just a smear on the road"
    "Bikers Don't cry When we Die, we just let others do it on our behalf"
    "Bikers Don't stop Riding,We keep cruzing after we Die"

  43. #43
    speedlee
    has no status.
    P Plate speedlee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Posts
    69
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    uppp for this, really common mistakes with solutions that most fail to follow... great info ~!!!
    First Love - Suzuki DR 200
    Current Love - Honda Super 4 Spec 1
    Previous Fling - Honda Sonic
    Dating Skills - (Class 2B) Riding, (Class 3) Drifting,
    Fresh Graduate from (Class 2A) Cornering ~!!!

  44. #44
    squishyworm
    has no status.
    Class 2B
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    216
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    i'm so glad this thread is stickied! UPS UPS again.

  45. #45
    sh3rman
    has no status.
    Class 2 sh3rman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Woodlands
    Posts
    948
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    great post!!!

  46. #46
    Skull_Angel
    has no status.
    TeePee Skull_Angel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Punggol End
    Posts
    2,735
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    ups ups ups ..
    Class2B - 11 Dec 08
    Past - Honda Wave 125S
    Current - Kawasaki KRR 150
    Class3 - 26/09/09
    Current - Lancer GLX 1.6
    One Life, Treasure It



    Future - YZF R6

  47. #47
    Fritz
    loves coffee
    TeePee Fritz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Hougang
    Posts
    3,071
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    A good read up!

  48. #48
    y2k_forever_rock
    has no status.
    P Plate
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    170
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Upz for the article...
    We the SAFE Riders, Pledged to ride SAFELY and STAY ALIVE!!!

  49. #49
    antartica
    hates the splash adverts!!!
    TeePee antartica's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Yishun
    Posts
    1,820
    Feedback Score
    3 (100%)
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    old post but still great stuff!
    thank you
    Grounded... :/

  50. #50
    bente9
    has no status.
    L Plate bente9's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Philippines
    Posts
    17
    Feedback Score
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    too informative

    STAND ALONE

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •