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  • Shell 92

    25 5.42%
  • Shell 95

    100 21.69%
  • Shell 98

    59 12.80%
  • Shell V Power

    58 12.58%
  • ESSO

    97 21.04%
  • SPC

    38 8.24%
  • Gold with Techron 98

    13 2.82%
  • Silver with Techron 95

    33 7.16%
  • Dont pump in Singapore at all or sometimes only, prefer to pump in malaysia

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    pump esso or caltex 95. smooth and good power.

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    engine is noisier with shell petrol, no matter 95 or v-power

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by susu View Post
    pump esso or caltex 95. smooth and good power.
    I tried Esso 8000 before is good but EX

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    Hi guys, ive tried filling caltex platinum & shell v.power for a month respectively. Personal conclusion, caltex platinum provides good pickup while over taking but its burning rate is much faster than any other fuel. When i tried shell v. Power, it provides a smooth kinda ride / acceptable burning rate & momentum. As such, ive been using shell v. Power ever since

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    95 will do just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Oliver Donovan View Post
    Hi guys, ive tried filling caltex platinum & shell v.power for a month respectively. Personal conclusion, caltex platinum provides good pickup while over taking but its burning rate is much faster than any other fuel. When i tried shell v. Power, it provides a smooth kinda ride / acceptable burning rate & momentum. As such, ive been using shell v. Power ever since
    Go with whichever you feel good with. But RON89 is the minimum petrol grade that will do well on phantoms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fairSquare View Post
    Go with whichever you feel good with. But RON89 is the minimum petrol grade that will do well on phantoms.
    indeed, i agree w/u

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Oliver Donovan View Post
    Hi guys, ive tried filling caltex platinum & shell v.power for a month respectively. Personal conclusion, caltex platinum provides good pickup while over taking but its burning rate is much faster than any other fuel. When i tried shell v. Power, it provides a smooth kinda ride / acceptable burning rate & momentum. As such, ive been using shell v. Power ever since
    Caltex platinum is it 98 unleaded?

    Btw, mine is 8.5 years old phantom which i took over a mth ago. Can use caltex platinum too?

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    The cheapest one.
    Got 89 Ron mare?

    SG and Malaysia all cannot find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by airwaven23 View Post
    Caltex platinum is it 98 unleaded?

    Btw, mine is 8.5 years old phantom which i took over a mth ago. Can use caltex platinum too?
    A friend of mine who's the manager @ caltex holland road quote, Yes Caltex Platinum is 98 unleaded. Nowadays i filled @ Caltex jalan buroh which gave a 14% discount hence full tank will cost me $18+ instead of $24-25. Mine is 9 years and still going strong caltex platinum or shell V.power hence yours shouldnt be a prob either. Btw am renewing my COE next march and afterwhich am using for about 1-2 years before trade off since the need for a car arise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Hunter View Post
    The cheapest one.
    Got 89 Ron mare?

    SG and Malaysia all cannot find.
    Probably a miss spell by airwave lol

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fairSquare View Post
    Go with whichever you feel good with. But RON89 is the minimum petrol grade that will do well on phantoms.
    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Hunter View Post
    The cheapest one.
    Got 89 Ron mare?

    SG and Malaysia all cannot find.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Oliver Donovan View Post

    Probably a miss spell by airwave lol
    No lah, it's not airwaven, it's fairsquare say one.

    Phantom maunual says lowest grade our engines can use is Ron 91.
    Think only Thailand have Ron 91.

    SG & Malaysia lowest is Ron 92.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Hunter View Post
    No lah, it's not airwaven, it's fairsquare say one.

    Phantom maunual says lowest grade our engines can use is Ron 91.
    Think only Thailand have Ron 91.

    SG & Malaysia lowest is Ron 92.
    Thanks for the corrections, slip off my mind lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Oliver Donovan View Post
    Thanks for the corrections, slip off my mind lol
    Haha! Corrected my name.

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    How come i top up Caltex 98 but seems like the effect same as Caltex 95?

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    You see wrongly and pump wrongly lor!
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    Personally, I dont feel much of a difference between 95 & 98 haha.
    But i still mix and match when i feel like it.

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    Hi guys,

    May I suggest that your chosen petrol will work even better with MSP Fuel Conditioner.

    MSP Fuel Conditioner enhances combustion structure, thus fuel economy and also protects, cleans and lubricates piston head and combustion chamber walls, injectors, valves and other working parts in the combustion chamber. It contributes to fuel economy and much cleaner emission gasses (you will not have any problem passing a smog test). The catalytic converter lasts much longer.

    Please click for more information (and see post #3)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Oliver Donovan View Post
    A friend of mine who's the manager @ caltex holland road quote, Yes Caltex Platinum is 98 unleaded. Nowadays i filled @ Caltex jalan buroh which gave a 14% discount hence full tank will cost me $18+ instead of $24-25. Mine is 9 years and still going strong caltex platinum or shell V.power hence yours shouldnt be a prob either. Btw am renewing my COE next march and afterwhich am using for about 1-2 years before trade off since the need for a car arise.
    The platinum and such enhanced fuels are simply fuels with higher octane numbers, which can withstand higher compression before they detonate. Using lower octane fuel is fine for diesel engines, but for petrol engines, higher the octane number, the better it is, as a rule of thumb. Lower octane fuels can lead to engine knocking.
    Having said this, naturally, the EO rating at which the engine stops knocking is the bare minimum rating of the fuel one should use. The 92 grade fuel is sufficient for Phantoms for this purpose. Higher octane fuel, however does not lead to enhanced performance. When I say performance, I mean better speed, or better fuel efficiency etc. It simply ensures that during the compression cycle of the piston, the fuel does not self-ignite, thus avoiding engine damage. Now, a fuel with a higher octane rating can be burnt in an engine with a high compression ratio without causing detonation, but for Phantoms who have compression ratio of 9.0:1 is much lesser than bikes like CBR600 (12.0:1), CBR400 (11.3:1) etc., there is no special need to use highest octane fuel available. It is only for those engines (typically in newer bikes) which demand those higher octane fuels to get the performance as said by the manufacturer and the moto magazines. Better save those few $
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    Quote Originally Posted by incognito6174 View Post
    The platinum and such enhanced fuels are simply fuels with higher octane numbers, which can withstand higher compression before they detonate. Using lower octane fuel is fine for diesel engines, but for petrol engines, higher the octane number, the better it is, as a rule of thumb. Lower octane fuels can lead to engine knocking.
    Having said this, naturally, the EO rating at which the engine stops knocking is the bare minimum rating of the fuel one should use. The 92 grade fuel is sufficient for Phantoms for this purpose. Higher octane fuel, however does not lead to enhanced performance. When I say performance, I mean better speed, or better fuel efficiency etc. It simply ensures that during the compression cycle of the piston, the fuel does not self-ignite, thus avoiding engine damage. Now, a fuel with a higher octane rating can be burnt in an engine with a high compression ratio without causing detonation, but for Phantoms who have compression ratio of 9.0:1 is much lesser than bikes like CBR600 (12.0:1), CBR400 (11.3:1) etc., there is no special need to use highest octane fuel available. It is only for those engines (typically in newer bikes) which demand those higher octane fuels to get the performance as said by the manufacturer and the moto magazines. Better save those few $
    Hi Bro,

    Nice explain on fuels
    I use Shell 95 no 92 in JB... my friend Super4 also use 95 Phantom don't really need 95 and above.

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    Hi Bros, have u guys tried BROQUET Fuel Charger?
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    my virgin post !

    my friend just bought his phantom ta200 from this uncle and what he was told by the uncle was to use shell 92 and once in a blue moon, pump shell 98 to clear the exhaust and dirt inside the bike. i don't know how true this is though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justinLQY View Post
    my virgin post !

    my friend just bought his phantom ta200 from this uncle and what he was told by the uncle was to use shell 92 and once in a blue moon, pump shell 98 to clear the exhaust and dirt inside the bike. i don't know how true this is though.
    Somewhat true. Because ta200 very fuss-free. 92 can run no problem. But good to use vpower or caltex platinum once in awhile because they supposedly contain additional cleaning additives to help clean out n maintain the fuel system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by naim View Post
    Somewhat true. Because ta200 very fuss-free. 92 can run no problem. But good to use vpower or caltex platinum once in awhile because they supposedly contain additional cleaning additives to help clean out n maintain the fuel system.
    Once in a yellow sun i use STP Gas Treatment red @$6.45 this year use 2 bot only so far so good.
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    been pumping shell 98 for the noise (exhaust wrap so its louder)

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    phantom can take octane 89 petrol according to manual. lowest u can get in sg in 92. up to you whether u pump 92,95 or 98. imo 98 and above is waste of $$$
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahcaibiker View Post
    phantom can take octane 89 petrol according to manual. lowest u can get in sg in 92. up to you whether u pump 92,95 or 98. imo 98 and above is waste of $$$
    oh..ok...

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    Quote Originally Posted by osxunix View Post
    Once in a yellow sun i use STP Gas Treatment red @$6.45 this year use 2 bot only so far so good.
    Me too. I used an entire bottle of STP treatment (a bit too over, I know but I too lazy to fill half bottle each time).

    The sluggishness can be felt upon topping up one bottle, but I will refuel afterwards during half-tank and it will resume the power. And I also don't do it that often (about once every 2 years)

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    where can I get the buy the STP Gas Treatment ?
    It seems like this is more power - http://www.stp.com/products/fuel-add...ystem-cleaner/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahguang View Post
    where can I get the buy the STP Gas Treatment ?
    It seems like this is more power - http://www.stp.com/products/fuel-add...ystem-cleaner/
    Use with caution and not too much like me... There is an obvious difference when you overuse it, the engine feels sluggish. I had to top up fuel way before reserve (5.++l) to correct the fuel mixture. After that, its power all the way.

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    the STP really helps ? Can feel the engine more power ?

     

     
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    personal feeling. Each time after one year plus, can feel a bit of retardedness in the engine (like clogging buay pang sai type). I use STP because there was once when I was out camping using generator, some kuku friend of mine topped up the generator using diesel (the generator is a petrol engine). End up engine cannot start (he cranked it so many times until chambers all flooded with diesel). Then I saw the STP in a kiosk and bought it to try out, and turn out the generator worked (no need to repair) and ran even more smoothly than before.

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    95 techron.. safra card got 14% i think not bad.. the other station need member.. my wallet too many cars.. dont like

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    Shell V-Power!!! Accelerates faster and better pick ups

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    Caltex 92 or 95 is good enough

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    ESSO 8000 for me at SG
    V Power at JB

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    95 at SPC coz got discount card

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    If you go on the internet, you can find out how to make high octane "racing fuel" from simple things you can get at your local hardware store. I'm going to be running an 11to1 piston so high octane is a must. I'm thinking in the 104+ octane rating.

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    always pump the 5000 one at esso. sometimes pump at caltex.

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    The lowest octane rating is okay for the bike.

    It's got a really low compression ratio

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    I pump 95, any brand depending on where I need to pump, but usually SPC.

     

     
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    I've done 89 before! No issues!

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