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    too many queries u ask. compile them in one post. U can edit the same post again and again.

    I only use the standard setting sprocket the manufacturer wrote in manual. This raw bike machine is tested well in factory and they come out front and rear sprocket size is the best. Also the digital meter speedo gets input from front sprocket gear spin NOT from front wheel spin.

    wheel bearing u can change to KOYO or NTN but must be "covered" type and not those open can see ball bearing. Yes. bearing also helps reduce vibration.

    my extra tensioner + cam guide one set is for future use. Cannot sell.


    why u need all above. Since in setia tropika they have all parts and will do one short everything for u.

    our model Raider R is first model so not all item is same as Belang R.
    example the meter panel cluster. You can go to chong aik desker rd and ask them to order for you. refer to my early posting for the part number.
    You need to change whole set.
    I heard other Raider in Spore use car shop to reset to 00000 but was charged SGD 50

    The carburetor air turning is super critical . You need to turn 360 degree marked full turn on screwdriver and not based on your hand twisting. I think I did teach and showed picture of the screw , refer past pages. Also I did mentioned how many turning
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    11 August 2014
    97324km
    Skudai, JB


    air filter
    petrol filter -suzuki genuine . Good compression
    ngk g-power
    shell R4 engine oil 1100ml + oil filter (new design)
    carb diaphgram
    2nd valve PAIR ONE SET with nut (new design).
    Clutch plate + clutch spring + bolt (new design) + gear driven (new design) + bearing (new design) + gasket clutch cover
    4 new nuts body covershield


    findings:-
    first time opening clutch cover since factory . 8 yrs old bike with 97324km
    Clutch area very clean - thanks to shell R3 & R4
    Default factory clutch plates and lining in superb condition . Only worn out 60%. Thanks to shell R3 & R4
    NGK G-power after 9200km usage, shows very plug clean surface and engine Combustion chamber very clean. Thanks to Caltex techron.
    After change PAIR (new design) and carburator diaphrgam , RPM dropped to 1300RPM and super stable.
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    continue on above service
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    tmn pelangi

    wash bike RM 7 super deep clean underneath
    wax bike RM10
    tip RM3
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    Ha ha ha. The queries strike my mind so I ask. Thought the bike polishing already gone after the Hari Raya at taman pelangi? Tried tuning the carb today evening after work. Set the screw by 2 1/4 turns by 360 degrees as per turn. Firstly the rpm stay at 3K~4K rpm and not dd itrop as usual. Then tried to turn down the idling bolt. Voila! the idle return to normal. Blow the throttle and it drops as usual. Happy.

    Remove both the handle balancers. Will try riding tomorrow to check whether the vibration will improve. Keeping fingers cross.

    Want to slowly tune up the bike for keeping. Inspection coming this October 2014. Bought 2 cans of WD40 lithium grease for lubrication. 1 can of high temperature black paint for the exhaust.

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    somehow I go there to wash bike
    quietly
    they washed maybe unhappily
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    super bad idea to remove handle balancer

    vibration caused by your sprocket chain set. just change them
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    Gun, what is the purpose of the handle bar balancer? Last time I ride those bikes do not have this balancers at all.

    Anyway, this morning ride found handle vibration still around. So not the cause.

    Notice my bikes swing arm at rear contact with the absorber has free gap. If put on double stand, the rear wheel can shake up and down. The shock is YSS. The shaft and hole has free play/gap. Will squeezing in rubber padding helps to solve this issue?

    Now my ride the idling is good. It show the mechanic who set in JB during the change out it at 1 turn only. Now at 2 1/4 turn, feels good. More monitoring.
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    put back the balancer. balancer has its own purpose....lazy to type here

    absorber thing I not sure

    idling at 1400rpm is the best and correct
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    Notice raider even at 6 gear, the speed picks up very fast just by twisting the throttle without any need of dropping gears to drag. Loving this bike. Should be the right choice that I have taken. Always like to have a reasonable quick bike. The handling is stable, fast and sharp.

    Just need to solve the vibration will perfect the raider. Must follow Gun's suggestion to change the sprocket chain set and both wheels bearings. Gun, have good workshop with address in JB to recommend? Like you said, near the custom area shops not so good and costly. But not this weekend cause tie up. Maybe next weekend.

    By the way, how is your shinob sprocket set? Is it much better than those standard sprocket sets in the market?

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    raider r fuel meter reading block by block

    also see most below I have another picture with per block mileage side by side
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7seater View Post

    By the way, how is your shinob sprocket set? Is it much better than those standard sprocket sets in the market?
    7seater,

    DO this
    go to Tampoi
    Kang Soon accesory spare part shop, tampoi, taman dato penggara barat
    very easy to ding in map
    it is along skudai highway only at main road can see uphill

    ASk for

    STT sprocket super hardened steel front and rear sprocket
    O-ring CHOHO chain 428 120L RM75

    buy these 3 items and bring to your shop and fix
    BUT LET U KNOW

    u must get back the original pin for front sprocket cause front sprocket holes and pin matches only for raider R. I believe previous users modified the front sprocket and pin to yamaha RXZ type. so watch out

    otherwise when u buy at Kang Soon ask for front sprocket STT for yamaha rxz.

    Also to know the parts visit http://eparts.suzuki.co.id/
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    to all raiders

    use o-ring as chain drive
    do not use normal 428 or 428 heavy duty
    this bike is 120link long and very fast slack loose. it is wasting time always to go thighten
    this also casues power ratio drop cause chain loose

    must use o-ring chain
    cheapest o-ring i use is CHOHO o-ring made in china but it has highest quality and japan spec and certified by norway standard
    RM75
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    meter

    97966km

    changed engine oil
    shell R4 1100ml pour until middle line through inspection window
    changed oil filter
    changed oil filter O-RING
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    fuel tank mileage meter reading
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    ever tried with last bar 1st blink. Ride on from Chinatown havelock CTE all the way to yishun st23 then back to jurong. Finally, in KJE, chua chu kang, start to blink double. Not sure how many km as my odometer already stop at max. Looks quite far for the last bar blinking usage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunshead View Post
    7seater,

    DO this
    go to Tampoi
    Kang Soon accesory spare part shop, tampoi, taman dato penggara barat
    very easy to ding in map
    it is along skudai highway only at main road can see uphill

    ASk for

    STT sprocket super hardened steel front and rear sprocket
    O-ring CHOHO chain 428 120L RM75

    buy these 3 items and bring to your shop and fix
    BUT LET U KNOW

    u must get back the original pin for front sprocket cause front sprocket holes and pin matches only for raider R. I believe previous users modified the front sprocket and pin to yamaha RXZ type. so watch out

    otherwise when u buy at Kang Soon ask for front sprocket STT for yamaha rxz.

    Also to know the parts visit http://eparts.suzuki.co.id/

    Thanks Gun. Will check with the shop. The ring is important.

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    After a week of no start, the battery flat. Jump start it it seems ok. Once battery flat, even kick start won't work. Now notice that the battery is only 3AH. Where as it should be 6AH standard.

    Wonder how big capacity battery can be installed on to raider? What is maximum magneto able to charge on battery?

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    correct
    this electrical schematic diagram very complicated due to digital meter panel
    so even kick start will not start

    6AH is correct

    ALSO BATTERY MUST BE SPECIAL TYPE- SLEEPING TYPE
    DO NOT INSTAL NORMAL BATTERY
    U MUST BUY THE SPECIAL Z TYPE WHICH CAN BE SLEEPING POSITION
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    Just put silicon into the handle bars to reduce buzz. Next to change the grips and put on balancer.

    Follow by sprocket set. Thinking of removing the lower part of the fairing or cover. Will it gives better cooling to engine and carb tuning, I guess.

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    Suzuki Raider R 150cc
    Suzuki Belang R 150cc
    Suzuki Satria F 150cc
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    Features

    Suzuki Raider R 150cc
    Suzuki Belang R 150cc
    Suzuki Satria F 150cc
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    With silicon inside the handle bar, ride is slightly better than without. Now can go at 90kph and buzz is bearable. This is at 6500rpm. Touching 8000rpm still face strong vibration.

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    Found Kang Soon In Jalan Skudai. Too bad they are closed on 30th Aug. Maybe go in next time. Anyway install the handle balance and grip. Throttle side buzz low. Now notice at 110kph the seat has vibration. The idling still not smooth in cold start. Once hot, it stable. Change the rear tyre Dunlop TT900 on size 80/90 @ RM105.

    During the weekend remove the bottom fairing. Bike inspection passed. Retighten the handle balancer. Test again sometime this week on the buzz. Wanted to paint the exhaust but not able to remove 1 piece of the exhaust bolt at the block. Is there any brush application high temperature paint? Maybe ask motorshop to remove the bolt.

    Check the silencer by removing the 3 bolts but not able to do anything as the silencer is enclosed piece.Thinking of lowering the noise.

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    something nice

    Raider R using SCEM cylinder block same like gixxer

    I took photo of my Raider R
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    original once upon a time

    our is blue/black

    they had yellow/black too
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    hi guys im new here...im using suzuki belang r 150..( malaysian )..
    now im looking for Fxr 150 parts in singapore....
    can anyone let me know where i can find one?

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    no FXR 150 in Spore.
    Buy in penang
    ask them www.suzuki.com.my
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    Belang not popular in Singapore. Maybe can go to Batam if you are staying in Johor area. Batam has the model as Satria. Hope this helps.


    Quote Originally Posted by SUJEN View Post
    hi guys im new here...im using suzuki belang r 150..( malaysian )..
    now im looking for Fxr 150 parts in singapore....
    can anyone let me know where i can find one?
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    16/9/14 99999.9km at tmn u jb
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    Caltex techron very good for engine
    I just took sample into bottle transparent
    notice it is so clean
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    Wonder if changing to a more silent muffler than original will fail inspection?

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    Went to JB Kang Soon looking for the sprocket set. Sad that they do have the ratio that I ask for. Maybe check again next time. Also went to Setia Tropika Suzuki assembler to get some parts. Change the diagpharm inb the carb. Too bad it remains the same for the idiling. According to the motor shop maybe my bike is high cam. so idiling irractic.

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    After return for 2 days, while riding, suddenly the bike die off and no longer to start. Like no petrol supply. but not able to determine the cause. Anyone able to guide?

    Also notice another problem. The spark plug has engine oil surrounding the it. But the firing point is dry. Checkin from internet is the seal is worn. Now to to get the parts.

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    Found that all my hoses (fuel hoses) are harden and crack. not sure this will be the causes of not able to start. Now headache.

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    fuel cock. change the entire hose to high temp hose and then change the fuel cock. fuel cock can cause inconsistency.
    Also check the PAIR 2nd valve reed.
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    15 oct 2014
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    mirror LHS housing broken at JB custom by itself

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    1. lever assy clutch one set . It includes switch assy and lever clutch.

    57500-25G30-000 LEVER ASSY CLUTCH - one set RM42.80
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    RHS LEVER ASSY, BRAKE 57300B21D10N000 - one set RM17.80


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    16/10/14
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    choho o-ring fix on sinnob
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    16 oct 14 change new speedometer

    99999.9km hang
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    16 Oct 2014
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    sticker no.1 stick fuel tank indicating bike completed 100,000km

    Fix new speedometer. Suzuki did correction and new part number is 34100B25G01N000. 01 means minor change

    New 2 nuts for headlight cover.
    New 2 washer for front fender.

    front wheel grease pennzoil and
    changed front wheel 2 seals
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    Sinnob + + chain 428 O-ring Choho Made in CHina RM75

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    Question NEW Raider R150

    Hi im new here. Im looking for a raider but cant seem to find them in SG. Anyone knows where can i get them?

    Btw I think i saw a newer version of Raider call Raider R150. I only know that the newer version has a electric start and bigger-looking engine air vent. Anything else i missed out?

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    Welcome to Suzuki Raider. Not sure of the new model. I am riding the 1st generation which has electric starter. My bike is 6 years old. Still doing it up.

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    Finally, my bike can start after sending to workshop. Damage $76 for all the following. Change the fuel cock. Lucky I bought 1 pc in Malaysia. Service the carb. Now the slow/idle is good. lack of skill to tune. One unfortunate thing is that the battery is flat and has to be changed. This is due to not able to start and keep for long time. About a month and the battery is flat. So be careful not to let your bike store too long without starting.

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    Riding my bike this week. Notice 2 separate times of engine popping/explosion sound during releasing of my throttle. Try to find the cause from youtube. Suggested it could be cause by leaking from carburetor to engine. So check the rubber hoses after the carburetor entering the engine. Found the clip is loose and not tighten. So tighten it today (Sunday). Will monitor the outcome.

    Change some rubber hoses around the carburetor as most starting to crack.

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    for Suzuki
    this pop sound after release throttle is cause of

    PAIR

    change the 2nd valve reed .....around RM 27
    also change the spark plug as well
    also make sure all hoses from carburetor is tighthen and if crack change them to high quality

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    Hi Gun. Thanks. Will try to look for the 2nd valve reed. Do you have any shop in JB to recommend for cutting the seat. I want to have a lower seating.

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    for seat I do in taman tun aminah, skudai
    this is car seat shop
    however he do for bikes also

    it is along the main road in tun aminah
    I don't have address

    I do all my bikes seat here
    only less then RM40 includes changing seat cover

    but for u to cut seat and use back the same cover then maybe RM 15 or RM20
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